111. One thing worth agreeing on
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Morgenstern 18th Jan 2012, 1:38 PM edit delete
Morgenstern
I used to think that taking an hour or more to write something insinuated that it was, I don't know, a book or something

No, no, it turns out you can totally stress out for hours on end over writing for a webcomic, too.

Pretty cool information to have I guess

I'm pretty tired, so I'll keep this short; I'll probably add to this commentary later. And maybe change the dialogue when I realize it was written in a half-sleeping stupor and is thus outrageous. I also might change that icon, I don't know. The other Goombas just didn't look right.

Consider this strip to be Everything Sort of Implodes on Itself, Pt. I

(Pt. II is going to be a doozy)

BlueMario 18th Jan 2012, 2:29 PM edit delete reply
WOO! First!

Sooo...what is that guy? A hypergoomba?
BlueMario 18th Jan 2012, 2:34 PM edit delete reply
Also, while I'm up here, go protest SOPA and PIPA.
Visit http://www.americancensorship.org to see how much it will actuall affect you.
Mr. Vareel 18th Jan 2012, 4:02 PM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
I've heard a lot of bad things about those bills, but I want to hear the other side of the argument before I do anything.
Plasma 18th Jan 2012, 7:57 PM edit delete reply
Well it's pretty obvious - it would sharply cut down on piracy. Not completely, of course, but still pretty significantly.

To be more specific, the whole thing is basically a "badly written law" - one with good intentions, but done in a way that's far too abusable and too costly. The other side of the argument is just the people that don't think so. Those people are... obviously wrong.


Which is actually the problem I have with the whole "Internet Strike" thing. These kind of laws only get passed if they're never really investigated properly (see: Ireland declaring underage sex to be man-on-woman rape). Which is why it's important big companies like Wikipedia and Google get involved.
But when you start forcing blackouts, /before either House or Senate has voted for it/, it's clearly going too far. Individual people basically have no impact at all on this. Wikipedia blocking out might at least raise global awareness, but XKCD or Shortpacked blocking their comics is going to do absolutely nothing, and are clearly just jumping on the bandwagon.
Owl 18th Jan 2012, 11:17 PM edit delete reply
Scrolling to the bottom of the page, the only thing I saw was "underage sex". Needles to say, I was a bit concerned as to what the topic would be about.
Dark_T_Zeratul 19th Jan 2012, 12:49 AM edit delete reply
You say it's just "jumping on the bandwagon," I say it's calling attention to these bills to people who may not otherwise be aware of them and their implications.
Evdog 19th Jan 2012, 7:34 AM edit delete reply
Evdog
Anyone heard of the opposition's alternative, OPEN. It has some flaws, but it's much better than SOPA.
Evdog 26th Jan 2012, 2:44 AM edit delete reply
Evdog
ATTENTION EVERYONE! THIS IS URGENT!

SOPA and PIPA were fronts. Nobody noticed ATCA, which does exactly the same thing, sneak through the door. It's already passed in America and caused irriversible damage, but it still needs to get past the EU to become global.

There's a petition to fight it here: https://www.accessnow.org/page/s/just-say-no-to-acta

It will take about one minute, and you will literally win the internet for all of us.
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 26th Jan 2012, 5:50 PM edit delete reply
I'm sorry but, this legal speak is WAY too complicated for me. Could you sum up what the bill does?
MeowMixIsorCats339 18th Jan 2012, 2:35 PM edit delete reply
I'm just throwing this out there. I think that it's Martello's dad or something. I know that I might be wrong but- Omigosh! Second!
Stegosaurus 21st Jan 2012, 1:42 PM edit delete reply
I thought the same thing as MeowMixIsForCats339, but check comic #59. Her dad has different shade of green and has orange hair. im thinking maybe an older prince peasely
Silvayne 18th Jan 2012, 2:56 PM edit delete reply
Silvayne
My guess: The Goomba's talking through the jewel-- a la WindWaker.

As to Mr. Green... not sure if he's a Koopa. His ears aren't pointed. I think I'm with BlueMario with him being a hypergoomba on this one.

Anyway, on the note of the potential of making a fan game of the fan comic... I've been giving some thought to this.

From what I figure, we've got two dungeons we can directly pull from the comic--the Lab and the battlefield, and two towns-- Twisters and the Chainless itself. While the latter is more of a mobile base, it's best to group it in as a town for the time being.

We've got four boss battles that Go is fully part of: Guy, Thrive, Birdo, and the King. ...Birdo's a special case where, if the player directly controls Go, the player doesn't land the final blow.

The problem is, Guy can't really be the first battle in the game-- he has a chainsaw after all. And, if we're to take after the Mario RPG's, the first battle comes fairly quickly in the game with only enough exposition to give setting. It's usually Bowser (with Crump or a Shroob as exception), and usually a recurring mini-boss.

My best idea is, before Go blacks out in the desert, he has to fend off a few sand-creatures. He hallucinates his more Toady self giving battle tutorials. Afterwards, he blacks out, the Chainless picks him up and we have a short town section. Then, Guy, where we introduce the mechanic of the fire-flowers.

Lastly, I'm trying to figure out a battle system that will best fit the comic's vibe. There's a lot of running and movement in the comic (Go's fleeing from Guy, everybody's all over the place in the Lab) and while we can't capture all of it, I kinda like the idea of a non-static battleground.

This thing's got me going and I'm liking my ideas so far. Anyone have anything to add?
Dr. C 18th Jan 2012, 3:34 PM edit delete reply
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
have you ever heard of a game called overgrowth? it is an indie game that is not yet released, but it has a very dynamic battle system- instead of health, you use a skeleton model. look it up.
there is also the consideration that we might not want to only play as Go, but instead mix it up a bit. maybe something along the lines of the 3rd hp game- you could switch between the characters available to you at any time. you would for example do this for the birdo battle, having guy tank and distract while palma and the cap set up the noose. another consideration is the engine to use, graphics wise
Dr. C 18th Jan 2012, 3:50 PM edit delete reply
It occurs to me that a heck of a lot can be done in flash. Consider: should each enemy be cheap, but capable of killing you as in Mario games, or a more rpg-ish battle style where it takes a number of enemies to actually weaken you. another consideration is there seems to be just three types of fights- horde battles, one on one duels, and boss fights which are merged. My last comment was a little bit rushed. Can you tell?
Gamegeneral 19th Jan 2012, 4:12 AM edit delete reply
Overgrowth is a hell of a game, man, and I can totally see it re-envisioned in the mushroom kingdom-through judicious use of cell shading.
Grimlock13 19th Jan 2012, 8:44 PM edit delete reply
@Silvayne
For your game I think a power up platformer(like castelvania or metroid) could be a good idea.
Zanbai 25th Jan 2012, 9:18 AM edit delete reply
The RPG idea seems really good. Still, while not a fan of the genre, I think mushroom go would make on hell of a fighting game.
1412 25th Jan 2012, 4:35 PM edit delete reply
maybe something like the mmbn series battles?
qwertyuhb 18th Jan 2012, 4:04 PM edit delete reply
qwertyuhb
Gah forgot I had an account.
another thought is how the chainless is going to play in. it could just be a hub as mentioned- or it could be a proper sandship, and let us engage in piratey activities. i think i have taken up a little bit too much space now, so i will stop spewing stuff everywhere
Mr. Vareel 18th Jan 2012, 4:10 PM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
My X-box Live gamer tag is Shrapnl 13 (Don't send me friend requests, I won't answer.), so that part where the green guy says "dear shrapnel" caught me off guard.

On another note, I'm guessing the green guy's a beanish. Why he's in the desert, I don't know, but that's my guess.
qwertyuhb 18th Jan 2012, 4:39 PM edit delete reply
qwertyuhb
I had come to the same conclusion, Mr. Vareel. The only question is if we have any reason to recognize him or his affiliations.
Bonz0 18th Jan 2012, 5:13 PM edit delete reply
Bonz0
Yeah, That's what I'm thinking to. He doesn't have the eyebrows to be any sort of Goomba. And he DOES have blonde hair...

And as for why is he in the desert...well, remember that ominous shadow we saw a while back?
qwertyuhb 18th Jan 2012, 6:06 PM edit delete reply
qwertyuhb
The "ears" are throwing that off. i want to know bout the kings other visitors.
Bonz0 18th Jan 2012, 6:33 PM edit delete reply
Bonz0
I thought he was just referring to the Chainless.

The ears are throwing what off?
qwertyuhb 18th Jan 2012, 6:42 PM edit delete reply
qwertyuhb
the ear-like parts of the shadowy figure.
he probably was just referring to the chainless, but i hope otherwise.
:edit:
my eye just caught his armor. it seems to have been given special attention. its blue!
also- MINVS?
robot clone 18th Jan 2012, 7:24 PM edit delete reply
green skin, blonde hair.... its prince peasly

....who is being called 'sir' by shrapnel

certain strange company and a gentleman
Bonz0 18th Jan 2012, 8:32 PM edit delete reply
Bonz0
I'm not saying this green gentleman was that guy from page 102. I'm offering a possible explanation for why someone from the Bean Kingdom would be in a place like this. That is, to investigate a possible return of Cackletta, the most popular guess as to who the shadow is.
qwertyuhb 18th Jan 2012, 8:41 PM edit delete reply
qwertyuhb
Doh, i acc thought of that, but dismissed it.
Bonz0 18th Jan 2012, 8:48 PM edit delete reply
Bonz0
It could be the rumor the goomba mentioned.

Also, I considered the possibility that Sir Gentleman could be Peasley, but the goomba calls him "Jack".

Hmmm....I wonder if Jack's catchphrase is "jackpot"....
hadron36 18th Jan 2012, 8:23 PM edit delete reply
Wow, this will be interesting. I got skyward sword!!!!!! Birthdays are great.
hadron36 18th Jan 2012, 8:24 PM edit delete reply
P.S. Groose sucks. Seriously.
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 18th Jan 2012, 11:54 PM edit delete reply
(>_0) SAY WHAT NOW!? How much have you played? If you've just started then Groose will only become more awesome.
hadron36 21st Jan 2012, 6:40 PM edit delete reply
precisely. I'm just beginning and have heard as such.
Owl 18th Jan 2012, 11:18 PM edit delete reply
"MINVS"? What's that mean/stand for?
Sails 18th Jan 2012, 11:51 PM edit delete reply
Minvs could be Minus.
Mr. Vareel 19th Jan 2012, 3:35 AM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
Minus Jack? -Jack? (Just tossing ideas.)
SecretAgent000 20th Jan 2012, 2:28 PM edit delete reply
...Maybe "Minus" as in the "Minus World"?
Evdog 19th Jan 2012, 7:48 AM edit delete reply
Evdog
Well he's wearing green, and the contrast of green is Orange.
That gem he's holding looks a bit like an Apple.
And they also called him Jack.

...just putting it out there.
Evdog 19th Jan 2012, 7:39 AM edit delete reply
Evdog
Does anyone else think that his hairstyle looks like Justin Beiber's.

Once you see it, you cannot unsee it.
Owl 19th Jan 2012, 6:30 PM edit delete reply
Owl
It doesn't just look like it, he ripped it off Beiber's head.
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 20th Jan 2012, 1:58 PM edit delete reply
So that's why his head's green...
Evdog 19th Jan 2012, 8:09 AM edit delete reply
Evdog
By the way, did anybody see the funny thing in the second frame?
Mr. Vareel 19th Jan 2012, 10:56 PM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
Unless you mean the writing on Jack's belt buckle, I didn't see it. Please, enlighten me.
Evdog 21st Jan 2012, 10:16 PM edit delete reply
Evdog
I have a feeling that only Morg is going to know what I'm talking about.
1412 25th Jan 2012, 4:41 PM edit delete reply
you mean the scar? the marks on the armor? or the massive cloud in the desert?
FuzzyZergling 19th Jan 2012, 1:19 PM edit delete reply
Those shoulder-guards are just magnificent.
Xander 20th Jan 2012, 3:15 AM edit delete reply
Just throwing a thought out there, but what about a Buzzy Beetle? Shoulder guards and such gave me that thought
MarcusOTerra 20th Jan 2012, 3:37 AM edit delete reply
Imma guess that's diamond armor on his body, cause it's the same color as minecraft diamond armor.

Totally. Yesh.
Mr. Vareel 20th Jan 2012, 2:33 PM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
You fool! You can't talk about Minecraft here! It will cause nerds with no lives (like me) to endlessly spam stupid comments about Minecraft! (Tongue-in-cheek.)
Mr. Vareel 20th Jan 2012, 2:37 PM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
(Just had to put this.)

Λlas, poor Bob-omb.
I knew him well.
hadron36 21st Jan 2012, 6:45 PM edit delete reply
Is it just me or is there a D battery next to KBB? That's energy efficiency.
MeowMixIsForCats339 21st Jan 2012, 7:56 PM edit delete reply
D.C maddness here. SO many people for the march for Life... Its still awesome though.

I am saying this just to get the word out because I gurantee that the march for Life will not be covered at all by any news network.

Its a big deal. Just wanted to get the word out.

(I'm not being a troll, just a messenger.)

Oh hey, blue person!
Evdog 21st Jan 2012, 10:24 PM edit delete reply
Evdog
I support you. And you're right: they must think that it's "too controversial" for news. XD
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 24th Jan 2012, 1:01 AM edit delete reply
IT...WAS...AWESOME!!! (>O<) THAT WAS MY FIRST TIME GOING AND I CAN'T WAIT TO GO AGAIN! Okay, I'm done screaming. Don't forget: Life is something that must be cherished. So pray for all of those who perished. God bless.
Mr. Vareel 24th Jan 2012, 9:14 PM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
Why pray for the dead? They're the lucky ones...
NotJoe 25th Jan 2012, 12:57 AM edit delete reply
NotJoe
It was pretty awesome
Owl 25th Jan 2012, 8:10 AM edit delete reply
Owl
See, my one problem with the March of Life is that it encourages people to not abort their pregnancies, but not offer enough financial support to those who need it. What people considering abortion really need is alternatives. Many of them know little about raising children or are not financially capable of keeping a child. They could put their children up for adoption, but some children do not get adopted and spend their lives being passed from one foster home to another. If we don't want people to abort their pregnancies, laws need to also be passed to offer much more support for caring for the child until he/she can reach financial stability on his/her own. We need to do more to help raise these children.

I hope I don't come off as being mean to anyone, this is just how I feel about this topic.
MeowMixIsorCats339 25th Jan 2012, 5:54 PM edit delete reply
Two words: Pregnancy centers. I pass at least one of these whenever I go to church so its not like they're uncommon. They are there to help pregnant women not just through their pregnancy but after their child is born. Some even have maternity homes where the women can live with their children years after they're born.

Most girls get an abortion because they feel that they have no choice. They're told by their parents, "You'd better not bring a baby home ever!" Or they just don't want to let their parents down. They feel that their boyfriends won't love them anymore if they don't get rid of their pregnancy so they feel like getting an abortion is the only option.

As a christian, it's my responsibility to help these women and offer any support they might be lacking from their loved ones. Its my honor to make sure that they know they're defiantly not alone.

Stegosaurus 25th Jan 2012, 8:53 PM edit delete reply
I was debating this issue the other day. I don't like abortion, but I can understand why some people would get them, like if theyve been raped or they have a terrible disease. Otherwise, i agree with MeowMixIsForCats339.
Stegosaurus 25th Jan 2012, 8:53 PM edit delete reply
I was debating this issue the other day. I don't like abortion, but I can understand why some people would get them, like if theyve been raped or they have a terrible disease. Otherwise, i agree with MeowMixIsForCats339.
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 26th Jan 2012, 2:49 PM edit delete reply
There is actually a defense AGAINST getting an abortion if you are a victim of rape or incest, but i will not go into that because I am inexperienced and would not explain it correctly.
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 26th Jan 2012, 2:51 PM edit delete reply
@ Owl-You're right, there is barely any information about help and support for the mothers. But, MeowMix did bring up the alternative. The problem being that when a woman goes to the clinic...
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 26th Jan 2012, 2:53 PM edit delete reply
...or Planned Parenthood they will never, NEVER, say "If you want to keep your baby here is a list of places where you can get support and counseling should you want or need it.) Why? Abortion is probably the biggest money scam in the USA.
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 26th Jan 2012, 2:55 PM edit delete reply
And ironically, that "quick fix" is only going to cause problems down the road. There are so many things that can happen physically and mentally. Besides the fact that you may never be able to have a child again or it increases the risk for breast cancer...
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 26th Jan 2012, 2:57 PM edit delete reply
it can make you go insane! A woman-who was a rape victim-got an abortion. Soon after she was in her house, grabbed her pistol, loaded it, cocked it, and aimed it at her reflection in the mirror. And before she pulled the trigger she said...
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 26th Jan 2012, 3:00 PM edit delete reply
"I'm shooting the son-of-a-B#@!& who took my baby from me!" besides that, studies have shown the rates for suicide after abortion go up 8%, and that's when the mother decided to have CHILDREN AFTERWARDS.
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 26th Jan 2012, 3:02 PM edit delete reply
So despite the evident medical and mental complications, women still get an abortion. Is it their fault? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Despite it being a "Woman's Choice" rarely is it their choice the first time around as Meowmix pointed out.
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 26th Jan 2012, 3:03 PM edit delete reply
So what's the answer? TO SPEAK AGAINST ABORTION MORE! There are so many who claim "I'm pro-life" that never even say "Abortion is wrong!" I have sat on my hands long enough, that is why I am speaking now.
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 26th Jan 2012, 3:04 PM edit delete reply
By doing this Planned Parenthood and the Media won't be able to silence us when we try to come to the mother's aid. And to make it clear: We care just as much about the health of the mother, as we do her baby.
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 26th Jan 2012, 3:07 PM edit delete reply
Should a pregnant mother who is considering abortion find this "dialogue" (it is so long) I hope this will help her to see she DOES have Options. Even if her close-est loved ones won;t support her.
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 26th Jan 2012, 3:10 PM edit delete reply
Thank you Students For Life conference for helping with that. And thank you all for listening, should you have any other questions look in your phone book and call your nearest pregnancy center. God Bless, and watch this: http://www.youtube.com/user/AllGirlsAllowed?blend=1&ob=0#p/u/9/KP3PIGggVUE
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 26th Jan 2012, 3:11 PM edit delete reply
(I need to learn how to make links.) And I am not registered so that's why my posts are like that. Don't forget about the little ones; they will teach us to love.
Trollguy_&_Memeboi 23rd Jan 2012, 10:40 AM edit delete reply
*sniffsniff* Do I smell a new story arc and enemy?!?
Mr. Vareel 24th Jan 2012, 9:16 PM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
Why are you crying? What's the joke? It flew so far over my head I can't even see it. I can only assume it's there.
Evdog 25th Jan 2012, 1:46 AM edit delete reply
Evdog
I sense it too. :P
MeowMixIsorCats339 25th Jan 2012, 5:59 PM edit delete reply
*sniff sniff* I smell a misunderstood commenter.

By the way, it's nice that there is finally a human-like bad guy. I have had it up to HERE (fantastic Mr. Fox reference) with Mutant Pirana plants and camo wearing Birdos and sophisticated King- Bob-oms...

It's nice to see someone with and actual...nose. Yeah, nose. Nobody else had a nose...
Mr. Vareel 25th Jan 2012, 10:21 PM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
*ping of realization* Oh...I FΛIL!
Morgenstern 25th Jan 2012, 8:02 PM edit delete reply
Morgenstern
It's so awesome that it's going to be late
Mr. Vareel 25th Jan 2012, 10:23 PM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
Λre we talking hours late or days late?
the_unchosen_one 25th Jan 2012, 10:57 PM edit delete reply
Or weeks or months or years?
Tommo 25th Jan 2012, 11:40 PM edit delete reply
Or decades or centuries or millennia?

Too far?
Mr. Vareel 26th Jan 2012, 12:46 AM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
*deadpan* Har har.
Evdog 26th Jan 2012, 2:41 AM edit delete reply
Evdog
@The_unchosen_one & @Tommo:
I was just about to do that, but you both beat me to it. :D
Mr. Vareel 26th Jan 2012, 2:53 AM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
*annoyed stare*
Morgenstern 26th Jan 2012, 11:28 AM edit delete reply
Morgenstern
Decades, decades is the answer
the_unchosen_one 26th Jan 2012, 1:01 PM edit delete reply
I'd compare you to VGcats Morg, but he just updated, so now you're losing to him
Infamous Nefarious 26th Jan 2012, 5:28 AM edit delete reply
Hmmmmm Minus-World agents perhaps?
Infamous Nefarious 26th Jan 2012, 5:39 AM edit delete reply
Infamous Nefarious
Perhaps indeed, obsolete, avatarless me.

Go with the fro.