109. Aspects to inquire about
Posted on 4th Jan 2012, 9:52 AM in 4. Bob-omb Battlefield

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Morgenstern 4th Jan 2012, 9:52 AM edit delete
Yeah, the chapter's not quite over yet.

I was hoping to have a new website layout up by the time this comic was posted; as it turns out, a;sljd;fjadjf; ;HTML RAWR ME HATE CSS STUPID INTERNET. HATEHATEHATEHATE

I think I'm just going to hire someone else to do the website layout. Money seems to solve all my other problems, why not this one? Wheee

I really like to establish narrative concepts, get the reader used to certain things, and then use those things to totally mess with people's expectations. Take the little conversation icons used in the comic, for example; previously, they'd only been used to indicate dialogue of major cast members. There were plenty of times where, say, Boss Birdo could have gotten a little dialogue icon, but didn't; heck, Boss Birdo never even really got a name outside of Boss Birdo. I know alot of people developed with that the expectation that... well, Boss Birdo wouldn't be a major character.

So going into this chapter, we have two characters--one pink bob-omb, one black bob-omb. Neither had names, but both of them had icons. I'd like to think that made it a little harder to tell who was going to actually survive this chapter, especially since I have actively killed a character off now.

I don't know, I thought I was being really cool about it. Shhh.

Though in retrospect, Palma's mom had her own icon, too--even if it was just a recoloring of Palma's. I might just be baiting speculation that Palma's mom is going to be some hugely important character at some point in the future.


On the other-other-hand, it might be past my bedtime and I'm just kind of rambling at this point. Me and my roommate have had a few discussions about formula (especially now that someone in my comments has called me out on having one), and I've been trying to convince him that the whole point of having a formula is in getting the opportunity to subvert it later. That, and in soaking in just how much this entire comic is a giant homage to Power Rangers.

Yeah, think about that one for a second. Big monster every episode? The main cast is color coded? I'd have the Chainless turn into a giant robot if I thought I could get away with it. You guys don't even know if I'm joking.

People sometimes tell me the comic is too heavily influenced by anime; turns out it wasn't anime, it was super sentai. I think some of you already knew that, though, and by some of you I mean Aikidoka

Goodnight folks, I'm going to bed
Morgenstern 4th Jan 2012, 10:17 AM edit delete
Oh, and I'm updating on Wednesdays now for work schedule reasons. I used my sophisticated Photoshopping skills to subtly edit the site banner again

Guest 4th Jan 2012, 11:55 AM edit delete reply
Onecanofsprite 4th Jan 2012, 12:01 PM edit delete reply
Who cares if you're first?
Spinnerlink 4th Jan 2012, 3:14 PM edit delete reply
why do you always have to be so angry onecanofspite? :P

Morgenstern 4th Jan 2012, 12:03 PM edit delete reply
I cared, but they posted as a guest so now I'll never know who was really first

whole day is just... ruined
Gamegeneral 7th Jan 2012, 3:30 PM edit delete reply
Your icon is absolutely perfect for that comment.
Mr Pibbleton 4th Jan 2012, 12:56 PM edit delete reply
Mr Pibbleton
There is something about all the character postures in this comic that I really like. I wasn't first by the way, so that's one less person from your suspect pool.
Invader.Socks 4th Jan 2012, 1:00 PM edit delete reply
Your avatar says all you need to, Morgenstern.

You should add a word filter or something, so whoever posts "first" would have it changed to "look at me. I want attention and the only way to get it is to say that I'm first." :P

Go's also changing quite a bit. He doesn't seem to fit in with the rest of the cast anymore. :/ He's almost too realistic.

And I think you should totally have the Chainless turn into a giant robot. Have the "Power Stars" do it magically. They can have an epic battle against some villain. I'm going to throw Thrive out there as a candidate because of the ending to Chapter 2(?)
Spinnerlink 4th Jan 2012, 3:14 PM edit delete reply
well he is the only one who looks like a human.
Invader.Socks 4th Jan 2012, 5:07 PM edit delete reply
Not really, Toads are just as stylized as Koopas and Ravens in the games, so IMO they should probably look somewhat similar in design. I've noticed Go's new design isn't as consistent as the others just quite yet.
Cammiluna 4th Jan 2012, 1:08 PM edit delete reply
I just don't bother with CSS at all save for generic font colors and backgrounds, it's only easy when modifying an existing layout because then it changes everything a code calls for, but I'm otherwise just an oldbie that plans a layout using a set of tables and placing everything within like I'm organizing a preschool cubby. Best way to go!

Also, all the best webcomics update on Wednesdays, so I can live with this.

Also, this super chainless robot will have Martello's Koopashell armor and guy's mask, and be further decorated with Palma's leaves and Go's metallic-mode finish as it will parade around smoking a giant McCoy cigarette. It will be... quite a piece of work!

PS: No amounts of keysmashing can write out the joy your new icon gives me, Morg!
the_unchosen_one 4th Jan 2012, 2:07 PM edit delete reply
I think Go's fire eyes/hands make more sense than a metallic sheen since we've seen that power more often
Cammiluna 4th Jan 2012, 8:28 PM edit delete reply
You're very right.

Still needs that melty metallic finish in any case!
Sails 4th Jan 2012, 3:07 PM edit delete reply
What is that grey line in the sky? It's frightening me =(
Owl 4th Jan 2012, 10:57 PM edit delete reply
It's a side effect of nyan cat flying. It's where all of that color for the rainbows comes from.
Hobojoe007 4th Jan 2012, 3:55 PM edit delete reply
In the 2nd panel Go looks very strange.... He has a very large chin... and nose

But I definitely like this week's comic. I think Obfuscobble has nailed all the character designs, with the exception of Go, he still needs some minor tweaks. but maybe I'm just being overly critical.

Meh, whatever
Evdog 5th Jan 2012, 3:34 AM edit delete reply
Second that!
Pinstripe 4th Jan 2012, 4:28 PM edit delete reply
Hey, everyone! Just thought I'd let you know - Obfuscobble and a friend of his are doing a tumblr ask blog together about their dumb action figures http://askkobd.tumblr.com/ . It's still new but their art is really good.
NotJoe 4th Jan 2012, 6:28 PM edit delete reply
I agree with Hobojoe. Go is a bit off in the 2nd panel.

Loved everything else about this update though, especially the mindscrew.

Edit: plus, umbrella.
GDan 4th Jan 2012, 6:41 PM edit delete reply
Go reminds me of Samurai Jack in Panel 2
Goblin Grenade 4th Jan 2012, 7:57 PM edit delete reply
Green block = Jellyness
EKA 4th Jan 2012, 8:22 PM edit delete reply
EKA 4th Jan 2012, 8:22 PM edit delete reply
antimattergizmo 4th Jan 2012, 8:36 PM edit delete reply
Hmmm, something about Go's face reminds me of a cross between Alladin and Kronk (emperor's new groove). May just be the Disney character that is in all of us whenever we get flatulence.
In other news by rule of thumb since umbrella is in another comic strip, he requires a name, for the sake of evdog posting another link that shows we must.
Evdog 7th Jan 2012, 9:42 PM edit delete reply
Owl 8th Jan 2012, 12:33 AM edit delete reply
But the umbrella was already named back the first time we saw it.
Aikidoka 4th Jan 2012, 8:39 PM edit delete reply
We need teenagers with attitudes!
Super Mariachi Bros. 5th Jan 2012, 3:50 AM edit delete reply
No one can ever take them down
the [star] power lies on their siiiide.
Aikidoka 5th Jan 2012, 7:25 AM edit delete reply
I have a confession to make. I always thought Morgenstern got his inspiration from Captain Planet =/

Palma = Earth, McCoy = Wind, Go = Fire, Sasha = Water, Guy = Heart...

"With your powers combined, I am Copyright Infringement!"
Zephirot93 5th Jan 2012, 2:04 AM edit delete reply
I can code your layout if you need.
Evdog 5th Jan 2012, 3:34 AM edit delete reply
*sits back and waits for Squishie fanboy reactions*
Amaare 5th Jan 2012, 4:56 AM edit delete reply
Chainless! Transform into Mega Pirate Zord!
All we need now is for birdo to come back to life and spit down an egg that hatches into a giant monster for it to fight...
Yes, I am picturing Birdo as Rita and his/her goons a the stupid henchmen.
Bureido 5th Jan 2012, 6:52 AM edit delete reply
Go in panel 2: Marv in Sin City.
Mr. Vareel 5th Jan 2012, 5:11 PM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
I don't have anything funny to say.
Random Person 5th Jan 2012, 9:13 PM edit delete reply
What happened to Go? o_o That's no longer a Toad. It's a human wearing a Toad cap.
Mr. Vareel 6th Jan 2012, 3:18 AM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
Good God, that means he switched kingdoms! Is that even possible?!
OneOfTheNamelessRabble 6th Jan 2012, 9:31 AM edit delete reply
Of course it is Mr. Vareel. Anything is possible in...The Twilight Zone...
hadron36 6th Jan 2012, 8:02 PM edit delete reply
Aah...! I see what you did there...
MeowMixIsorCats339 6th Jan 2012, 4:09 PM edit delete reply
OH. MY. GOSH. Guy is talking now. oOo

Granted he probably only talks to squishie but- OMIGOSHITSGUYSUMBRELLA!!!!!
Mr. Vareel 6th Jan 2012, 11:40 PM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
Did he say anything other than "P-lease. Please don't."?
MeowMixIsorCats339 6th Jan 2012, 4:11 PM edit delete reply
sorry for the extremely long reply. o3o

just scroll to the right to see the whole thing.
Morgenstern 7th Jan 2012, 12:04 AM edit delete reply
Sorry MeowMix, I had to explode that comment for page fixin' purposes
Spinnerlink 6th Jan 2012, 5:51 PM edit delete reply
agh you broke the page!
Mr. Vareel 6th Jan 2012, 11:39 PM edit delete reply
Mr. Vareel
Ranter 7th Jan 2012, 2:12 AM edit delete reply
This page really isn't acceptable. I know that it can better because Ob is NOT ALL THAT BAD. I understand not being able to get comic in on time, and that's fine. Take all the time, weeks, if you need it, just get the job done right.

-The bridge in panel one looks completely flat, and the proportion, of where the bobombs are stand in the far back, is off.

-Panel two...so wrong, just about everything in Go's face. His eyes are too low, his hat is too high. Go has usually been consistently short and baby-faced, as a toad, abeit buff in a stringy kind of way. I love Palma's hands, hips and legs, and the things she carries are done very well, but her far shoulder should be situated higher, her necklace looks 2-D, and her boobs seem to get bigger every panel.

-Panel 4- OH GOD THE BOOBS CAN'T BE STOPPED! (lol, jk, last panel is actually perfect. ;) good job)

There are some things that you did well because you always do well with them.(because you are amazing, of course) Palma's hair is beautiful as always, as always the rocks and mountains are nicely and realistically colored.

BUT! (my previous comments were problems I have as a reader and fellow artist, but here comes the PURE OPINION zone) I only wish you might make the general style grittier. It would look very nice, I think, and maybe even be less work! It can be accomplished aesthetically by roughening up the edges of the outline, and realistically by deepening the shadows. I say realistically because, well, this is a desert! Your bright areas are very bright, but many neglect that the desert sun also makes your dark areas very dark!
DicktheCat 7th Jan 2012, 2:06 PM edit delete reply
Um... I was gonna fuss about Go's face in panel 2, but I think Ranter got it.

Otherwise, great job as usual, guys!

And.... Guy talked! I wasn't even sure if Shyguys could talk...
Bonz0 7th Jan 2012, 2:54 PM edit delete reply
Do you mean in terms of Mushroom Go universe, or the Mario universe in general? Shyguys frequently talk coherently in the RPG (especially the first Paper Mario) games and some of the spinoff titles like Mario Party (an adventurer shyguy was the host for one of the boards).

As for Mushroom Go...well, the shyguys talked when they were roboticized. That not might have been their natural voices, though. Either way, McCoy's words imply that it's just Guy's tribe specifically that does not use vocal communication. Although it's possible that all tribal Shyguy communities communicate through body language. Palma has confirmed that industrious communities of Shyguys with tanks and such also exist in the Mushroom Go universe. I think it's safe to assume those guys have moved beyond hand signals and arm waving.
neologix 7th Jan 2012, 3:20 PM edit delete reply
Now we MUST know about Go's 1337 h@x0r skilz!
Evdog 7th Jan 2012, 9:27 PM edit delete reply
He probably did something like this.
Cammiluna 7th Jan 2012, 11:00 PM edit delete reply
I just had a most amazing layout idea that uses the sprites from the filler comics in a Mario 3 Desert Land theme. If I have time this weekend, I'll play around with one of my unused webcomic sites as a testing ground

I like desert land.
Evdog 8th Jan 2012, 5:14 AM edit delete reply
Well, it's not an ice world, so it must be good.
Bonz0 8th Jan 2012, 2:21 PM edit delete reply
Have you been reading Brawl in the Family lately?
hadron36 10th Jan 2012, 8:48 PM edit delete reply
Hooray BITF is awesome yay. Oooh, it's starting to look just like an ice world!
I_am_Solid_Snaek 8th Jan 2012, 7:30 PM edit delete reply
Too lazy to log on. But hey, Obbie's got his art nailed down, even though Go... seems to be a work in progress.

And finally, I beat Skyward Sword! On to Hero Mode!
mom 10th Jan 2012, 3:54 PM edit delete reply
hey, thanks for remembering your dads birthday, way to go!
NotJoe 10th Jan 2012, 5:27 PM edit delete reply
Who's mom is this?
Bonz0 10th Jan 2012, 5:58 PM edit delete reply
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigLippedAlligatorMoment ?
Mr. Kurosaki 13th Jan 2012, 10:48 PM edit delete reply
I'm just waiting for Palma to fall out of her God-blessed leafy tank top. -_-